2014 August 26 – Interview Transcript

 But I wanted to read to you what she says about Karma. Karma perhaps is often misunderstood. Many regard karma as a punishment for past and present deeds. In reality Karma can be positive or difficult experiences. Karma can also be rewards for positive deeds and actions. It all depends on the individual soul. The awareness, the experiences and the responsibilities of each particular soul. The more one is aware and more responsible one becomes towards ones actions and relations it has a lot to do for the amount of Karma one accumulates, whether it be negative or positive.
And the other thing she says here is: that Karma is not only accumulated in the physical but other dimensions as well.
Would you agree to a certain extent about that understanding of Karma? We had a talk before and you said well its not necessarily a punishment, which she has just reinforced. Can you expound more deeply on that?

COBRA I dont agree with the notion that karma is a system of punishment. Actually I dont like to use that word because it is so charged and it was greatly misused by the Archons who actually installed the punishment system on the planet on these two planes and on the physical plane. So I would just simply say that there is a law of manifestation. If you have negative actions you will tend to attract more of the negative actions in the future. I wouldnt even call it a law of cause and affect, because there are many factors which determine what will be manifested. But I will simply say, if you focus on the positive you tend to manifest more of the positive and if you focus on the negative in your thoughts and emotions and actions you tend to manifest more of the negative and there is no punishment involved in this. There is no reward or punishment system involved in this. The Archons have manipulated and misused that fact by distorting it and by actually creating a punishment system on the astral plane – also on the physical plane. I would never use that word because it is so charged and we have been so misused.

Rob Yes, maybe you heard me, but I was saying that it is not a punishment system. But the vibration of the experience, if you were like me I can often be judgmental and impatient and that type of energy that I put out can come back to me and its a lesson. Its an opportunity to grow into compassion and understanding as the same vibration that I attracted to myself results in me its a learning experience. Thats what I meant. Would you agree with that?

COBRA  I would not even agree with that. I would not say planet earth is a school or a learning experience. I would say that there are much better ways to grow and learn than to have negative experiences mirrored back to you, because its a closed loop system. So anywhere else in the universe, if you have a negative thought, you would receive healing. Most people would be open to that healing and would heal. I would say the oldest – all those concepts have been misused to make people believe, to support the recycling system, the reincarnation system that they have something to learn here. It is not true. I do not agree with that.

Rob Im going to have to disagree with you on that. My understanding and my teachings and all the information that I have felt and understood and intuited and from my own experience, I dont see it as a punishment system. I see it as a result of yes, cause and effect. Reincarnation is a fact and its accepted on all worlds. The material worlds have always had these problems and there have been some new developments as youve said that have been reinforced by some of the information that I have been getting from the Venusians in regards to the nature of the various planes. I wanted to ask you some questions here. Does the earth have an astral plane that is separate from the Venusian or the Pleiadians astral plane?

COBRA Yes, each planet has a physical body and also has an etheric body and it has the astral body. The astral body of the planet is very much connected with the life forms that are inhabiting the planet. So planet Earth has an astral body which is directly connected with humanity and other life forms on the planet and is of course different than the astral body of the Pleiadians’ star system.

Rob OK, thank you for that answer. Would you agree that we are souls and that we descend and we begin – go through a process, and the souls process and purpose in life is to go through a continual process of ascension which starts as a mineral, moves toward vegetable life over extended millions of years and many different worlds experiencing feelings and emotions and then moves into an animal life existence and has an extremely long experience there “ many millions of years “ and then the soul becomes a physical being? Would you agree with that?

COBRA This is one possible course of evolution and the star people on this planet did not go through that process. Actually the star people on this planet went through a different process when they emerged from the central sun, went through the angelic evolution then descended through dimensions into the physicality. But yes, most of humanity on the planet went through mineral phase, went through the vegetable phase and went through the animal phase through millions of years. So we have two streams of evolution here which are now interacting and integrating [with] each other.

Rob OK, the other thing I would like to ask you, kind of along these same lines here – would you agree that we are soul body takes on various sheaths or bodies to experience the physical plane? My feeling is what is the purpose of creation on all different planes “ is to support life, whichever life it is on that plane. I feel from my intuition and experience and understanding of my soul travels that we are constantly learning, evolving, and growing and that the, Im going to say, in the past, because according to the teachings that youre giving and some other people that Ive had more clarification on now, indicate that there is drastic changes taking place. So after billions of years all the universes are changing and theres a new vibration that is shifting the positive and the negative worlds in a completely radical and different transformational process. Would you agree that we become co-creators as a divine spirit spark as drops in the ocean of the infinite? Our individual expressions are co-creators with supreme deity?

COBRA – Yes, I would agree with that.

Rob OK. The other thing that Id like you to comment on before going into other peoples questions. I was going to give you the seven laws that were given to me recently through the Omnec Onec information. The 7 basic laws – these are the divine laws. They maintain these are known on all worlds and the science of soul travel is understood and that the spiritual process of soul travel is a technique used on all worlds to allow each individual soul to have their own experiences. But here are the seven basic laws from Venus and then the seven divine laws. Id like your comment on these after I give each seven. 1. Know ourselves to be part of the creator. 2. Be thankful for experiencing of existing. 3. Not to judge but accept all beings. 4. To know we have existed in all living forms. 5. Fulfill our responsibilities in each life cycle. 6. Obey the laws of nature in the societies in which we exist. 7. To learn from mistakes so as not to repeat old lessons. Does that sound good?

COBRA  I would say each person needs to find the answers to that question by themselves and go inside and feel within and see if it resonates with you.

Rob  OK. Ill give the seven divine laws: 1. Love all living creations. 2. Use our energy to support our worlds. 3. Share knowledge and wisdom. 4. Understand the equality of all souls. 5. Never use power to manipulate or control 6. Know the soul is immortal. 7. And give thanks to the one divine being daily. Those are the rules that they go from on Venus. The questions we had about Karma were many but Im going to go into the questions now and well start running through them from the other individuals. How much do you foresee human behavior thoughts and speech improving as soon as the scalar wave technology implants are removed after the event?

COBRA When the scalar technology is removed I expect drastic improvement in human behavior, because that technology is one of the main factors why people are acting strange.

Rob Right now do you feel human behavior is more influenced by Archonic technology itself or is it due to an auto pilot mental programming that has persisted for so long and the negative habits have become so ingrained in humans that the scalar technology is not that influential?

COBRA  It is very influential, because when the technology is removed the light can come in and begin to disintegrate all mind programming. Because mind programming can only be maintained with constant entropy, with constant bombardment with negativity. So when the negativity is removed the programming automatically begins to dissolve.

Rob  OK. The Carlini institute has tracked the effects of intense solar flares and coronal mass injection affects on the human body for several years. These symptoms coincide with the timing of solar flares and include strong feelings of electricity running through the body, extreme weakness or fatigue, pulsation in the head, anxiety, racing heart, fever, flu like symptoms etc. Do you have any information you can share about solar flares? And are there other factors you can mention that may be causing these symptoms which is a newer phenomena in recent years?

COBRA There are many factors causing this. One is them is the solar flares but its not the only one. Actually solar activity is very strongly correlated with the galactic central sun activity which is also increasing. And of course many of those phenomena have nothing to do with solar flares or galactic activity but are mostly created by scalar technology. Scalar technology can create very strange sensations in the body.

Rob  OK, Thank you. We had the compression breakthrough compressing the light down to . . . I think 100 yards or 300 feet from the top of the surface of the planet to below the planet now. We had many many many astral parasites. We seem to move very quickly from the 9 mile limit down to this. Where are we at with the astral parasites, not the individual Archons that are hiding, but where are we at with them right now. Are those mostly removed? Have we gotten a tremendous improvement now that theyve been compressed in a small area. Is it easier? Are they gone?

COBRA  Yes, there has been quite dramatic progress in the astral parasites. They are almost gone. So this is not the main problem any more regarding the non-physical influence.

Rob  OK, as a side note. I sent you a picture, one person sent me some pictures. They look like some kind of normal biological earth entities but I would like your comment. Did they look like astral parasites?

COBRA No, no. I have seen the pictures and they look like physical biological entities.

Rob“ Yes, thats what I thought. Next question: if theyre so desperate and unmanageable what is stopping the Chimera form detonating the strangelet bombs. Why havent they done this yet?

COBRA Because they would destroy them as well and they want to survive.

Rob What is the connection between the revaluation of the Iraqi dinar along the global currency re-set and the event itself? Is it possible that one can proceed the other?

COBRA  There is much talk about this so-called revaluation. I will repeat again. It is extremely unlikely that this will happen before the event and there is a simple reason for this. The worldwide financial system is connected through super computers – through a network. It is a closed network. It is not open network like the internet. It is a closed network and the cabal or, shall we say, more precisely, the Chimera group – they control that network. And until the Cabal is removed the revaluation cannot happen because it has to happen through the banking system and is extremely unlikely that this network will be in the hands of the light forces before the event. Because of course, the Cabal would retaliate and its not a good idea.

Rob Right, but It is possible you spoke about that?

COBRA It is extremely remotely, extremely small chance.

Rob  I spoke with someone, I can talk about them of course, theyre very closely associated with some at upper levels of the revaluation in Reno and attempting to get this done and they actually are thinking its possible that things are set. I personally have to agree with you. I dont really see that taking place. I asked them today if one currency could happen before another. Like just one to see how it goes and what the results would be and they felt that it has to be all at once which reinforces my feelings that it will take the event to make it happen.

COBRA  Yes, this is the only safe way to make it happen. The only balanced way to make it happen.

Rob Yea and I have a feeling were much further away than people think on that. But that’s just my way of never wanting to getting my hopes up. Heres a series of questions we’re going to go through. Is the RH blood line, some people claim, the Holy Grail? Is it traced back to Jesus and if not, where does this blood line originate from or is it a myth?

COBRA  I would say actually, there is a positive 13 bloodline and it also includes the being which is called Jesus on this planet but also includes many other people. And the purpose of that blood line is to bring light to the planet and yes, it is sometimes called the grail blood-line.

Rob  Right, what about the RH negative blood, the most rare? I have that. It’s AB negative.

COBRA  Its a completely different story – nothing to do with holy grail or lineages.

Rob  Heres an interesting questions. I believe consciousness or soul comes from source and descends. What star system and alien race is the birth of the humanoid race or I guess what some people would call the Adam Kadmon?

COBRA  OK. humanoid ____ type has evolved on many different places, not only throughout this galaxy but also other galaxies. I would not say there is a certain specific region that is the birthplace of the human race. Its a universal archetype which is actually a natural result of the laws of physics. This is the most convenient way for a physical body to function on the physical plane.

Rob Yea, probably falls along the divine matrix of creation. (Exactly.) Very good. A redundant question here weve answered, but the 3D matrix is obviously flawed. How can a parasitic construct which is fueled by energy harvesting ever be rectified? We go back to the parasites and that type of thing. How is this going to happen?

COBRA OK, you have a matrix which is actually on one level a computer program. Every computer program can be hacked. So all the technology – all the devices – whatever the dark cabal has – they have a weak spot and those weak spots will be exploited and all the technology will be removed. The Cabal without the technology are just human beings without any power.

Rob OK I would like to ask another question along these lines. What is the situation with the major Archons? Have we had some major influential Black Nobility or high level Cabal members been removed lately?

COBRA  In the last few months, not many, but the ones that are existing are loosing their power drastically. All the Jesuits and the black nobility families are loosing power quite fast.

Rob  Theyre losing their support base even among their minions, huh?

COBRA  Also, yes. But I would say on the highest level they dont have the power they had before – even half a year ago they had much more power.

Rob OK. very good. Here’s a question. Why do we circle clockwise during planetary liberation meditation exercises? Some people want to know why we circle clockwise? You circle clockwise in the liberation meditation. Why do you circle clockwise and not counter clockwise?

COBRA  This is the direction of manifestation so we are manifesting liberation on the planet.

Rob  Very good. Why do we pronounce eeee and eeeeahhhh? How did you get the information?

COBRA  It is actually pronounce eeeeh aaaah. (eeeh aaah, Why do we do that?) It is actually creating an energy vortex which dissolves the very structure of duality and dissolves the structure of quantum anomaly on the planet.

Rob OK, now one person says, ‘Ive heard and read that humans from other planets have physical bodies. They do not age, do not get ill and live much longer. And it’s actually on each plane the body, to them, has a physicality to it. Doesnt it? Its actually a lighter vibration than ours on each different planet depending on the plane “ whether they are manifest on an astral planet, or a mental plane or a higher plane. They actually have physical bodies like we do, dont they?’

COBRA It depends on the situation but yes, there are many planets where they have physical life. There are many human forms on those planets as well.

Rob But when they go astral they also have the same body. Its just a light body, correct?

COBRA Its not the same body. The astral body is a little bit different shape. It has a humanoid shape but theres an oval of light around it. (Yes. Yes.) Its a little bit different.

Rob Good, exactly. Thats what I was thinking. The other question here is: I thought after the ascension we could also experience the higher light body. Why do we have to get rid of our physical body?

COBRA  You dont get rid of the physical body. You transcend it. At a certain point your consciousness integrates everything you need to integrate in this dimension and then you dont need the physical body any more. Of course after the ascension you can still create a physical body but you will not be incarnated into the body. It will just be a holographic projection.

Rob Yea, Omnec Onec described life on Venus where they actually¦ everything is manifested by thought and there is a very strict protocol of teaching how to manifest and how to create If they want to make a carpet look like tile and feel like grass, they can do it. And they also have social gatherings where they often will appear as famous people in history from various worlds and its the challenge of the other guests to figure out who the person is behind their manifested disguise. Its pretty interesting there. Here it says: in your recent post, The Fall of Chimera, you explain that the Chimera were the master rogue group that enslaved the quarantine earth and they enslaved the reptilians and Draco beings. Can you tell us anything about what these reptilians and Dracos were like prior to coming to earth?

COBRA  There were many places in this galaxy even this planet had a genuine reptilian and Draco population below the surface of the planet. They were also in many star systems in the Orion constellation and many star systems in the Draco constellation and some other constellations. They was a wide spread lifeform in this sector of the galaxy.

Rob  So they actually lived as conscious beings below the surface of the planet here from origin from this planet?

COBRA  Yes, some of them. Some of them are genuine earth-based reptilians.

Rob Were they all ready hostile to humans beings on the surface or was their DNA altered and scalar wave technology to make them tools of the Chimera group.

COBRA They were hostile, but not as hostile. They were made more hostile because that aspect of their nature was supported and the positive aspect of their nature was not supported.

Rob Why were they separated from us underground? Why didnt they evolve along the lines and why didnt they stay on the surface with us and we just would accept them as another life being like on other planets?

COBRA  They were removed from the surface when they became dangerous to destroy humanity on the surface.

Rob  Oh. Who removed them?

COBRA  Other races. There were many I would say genetic experiments in Atlantis and some of them went quite far, too far. Some of them actually involved the reptilian race and it became dangerous. so there were Some of the cataclysms in our history actually removed the reptilian race from the surface.

Rob OK. Heres a question that Omnec Onec answers. If ascension is about going to another dimension, what happens to all the beautiful technologies and buildings if afterwards everything just vanishes? According to Omnec Onec, when Venus became astral they went through the same cycles that we did in physicality. She says that the planet just gradually, over a period of time, became an astral world. Would you agree with that?

COBRA Yes, thats an fairly advanced stage of evolution of a civilization. Humanity is far from that.

Rob Yeah, Our entire civilization will not be advancing to the astral dimension. Is that correct?

COBRA  Yes, that is correct.

Rob So what is the transformation? Everyone talks about 4D and 5D – that type of planetary ascension is a long way off. But there is going to be a drastic improvement on the physical plane?

COBRA  Not only drastic improvements on the physical plane, but there will be different paths of evolution open. Because we have people on various stages of development on this planet right now. Some of them will be accelerated drastically. The masses will also receive a quantum leap in their consciousness. But their end destination will be a little different.

Rob Heres a question: What is the moon and why does it not spin?

COBRA The moon is rotating around the earth and it a natural satellite of planet earth.

Rob Why doesnt it spin? Why do we always see the same side?

COBRA  Because its rotation is synchronized with planet earth.

Rob  OK. According to some sources, the earth was considered uninhabitable by the Galactic Federation because it only had one moon. Theyve indicated that either 2 moons or 1 moon is preferable for inhabitation due to the drastic emotional instability caused by a single moon. Would you agree with that?

COBRA  No, no. Actually people have many ideas about the moon but the moon is actually just amplifying the emotions which are already present. It can actually be a portal for the light.

Rob  I would agree with that. I think it can also be an amplification of negativity too. Would you agree with that?

COBRa  I would say . . . It just triggers whatever has been suppressed. And if people resist that process of clearing, it can appear to be negative. When people go with the process and are not enemies of their emotion, it will not increase negativity. It will purify it.

Rob  OK. Itll just give a caveat there that the moon’s rotation does affect the serotonin levels in the blood and makes the emotional feelings more intense. And for those who are not in control of their every thought and who are in emotional situations will find themselves, their tension reaching a higher point. Heres a question a little political. Why doesnt Putin officially reveal the true identity of the Cabal in the media? If hes a good guy, why doesnt he back this up with the evidence and reveal the ET roles and start to break the quarantine? If hes changed his colors, why isnt he a little more powerfully paddling on the side of the light?

COBRA  It is because he is a politician and all major politicians are still controlled by the Cabal to a certain degree. The Cabal could still remove him, or even worse. The cabal could do many . . . I would say if any significant public person would reveal extra-terrestrial evidence or take drastic actions against the Cabal, that would trigger drastic retaliations from the Cabal towards humanity. I would say that there are elements in Russian military which are controlled by the Chimera group. And you know always that the military controls the president. And I would put here the negative aspects of the military even in Russia still controls the president to a certain degree.

Rob  Is he knowingly contacting any members of the resistance, the planetary spiritual hierarchy, the Ascended Masters or is he just trying to maintain his power?

COBRA  He has been contacted by the light forces quite recently. He has received some intel and some guidance from them but he is trying to balance different forces. Hes trying to make this transition as easy as possible for the Russians. His main motivation is to preserve the interests of the Russian nation and at the same moment to support the Eastern Alliance to a certain degree.

Rob Do you think his viewpoint has evolved to accept the whole transformation thats coming and the whole thing or do you see him as trying to maintain his position and be that linchpin to the transition and maintain his kind of power thing the way the Cabal kind of runs, or do you think he realizes the complete transformation that is coming that would change things? Is he completely on board? He is that high evolved?

COBRA  I would say he is 80% on board.

Rob Okay, thank you. It’s said that [if] some cabal members [had been] removed from the planet, it would be logical that the family members or friends would notice that a few people are missing and seek out the media. Why didnt we hear about the missing persons for those Cabal members you said that were offered asylum – that they didnt want to be in there?

COBRA There are very few of them that have been removed from the planet – very few.

Rob  OK. Thank you. Can you comment on Edward Snowden? Is he a genuine whistleblower, white knight, or is he a dis-info? Does he know about the liberation and the resistance?

COBRA  He had a very positive role because he made the masses, the human masses, realize the reality of NSA spying programs, which is a very good thing.

Rob  Very good. Here is a great question. I love this one. Why is it so many people think theyve been Cleopatra or Osiris in their past life? Do we just connect to memory which is saved in our collective consciousness? Are they delusional? Are we all part of some giant soul family? What is that?

COBRA  It is simply a, I would say, a wish for human beings to be somebody great. Its just a wishful thinking on the astral plane.

Rob  Very good. How can we bring together the oneness theory of the Archon theory? How can oneness in consciousness and at the same time recognize the negative things and the good things that happen?

COBRA  Okay. Actually oneness is a source field. Its a consciousness field of everything positive and it does not include a random function. It does not include the negativity itself. The negativity itself is a logical opposite of oneness and both are existing.

Rob Yes, that goes along with my understanding as well, that the supreme creator is completely perfect in itself and separate in a sense and at the same time we are part and parcel of that divine. Its actually kind of like a paradox. Heres a question: For those who decided to come here in Atlantian time before the fall, did we want to have a good thing here created or did we want to help humanity evolve?

COBRA  We came here to liberate the planet. We saw what was happening here and we wanted to stop it. Thats it.

Rob  Are some members of soul families of the star seeds in light ships?

COBRA its a huge soul family. Its a huge family of light. And yes, many of our members of our soul families are on the ships right now.

Rob  OK. Heres another question: If a decree has been made by the higher powers, the GFL, that no more nuclear blasts will be allowed in order to bring devastating damage to Gaia earth. Why then are strangelet bombs even a possible concern? Couldnt they be deactivated just as nuclear weapons have been? Or is It much more difficult? Weve talked about that before. But someone says it seems contradictory.

COBRA  It is not. It is simply that the nuclear bomb is a very simple technology and strangelet bombs are a little bit more sophisticated and its not that easy to disarm. Its possible, but it takes time and it takes some other factors which are being taken care of right now.

Rob  OK. Another question here: There are many stories circulating for thousands of years that the attempt to explain the earths history and cause for confusion among the earths inhabitants is lost because of the quarantine and the misinformation from the Cabal. Can you talk about the information or myth that an archangel wanted to experience physical matter was the cause of anomaly of darkness? It seems over simplified.

COBRA There is some truth in this direction. There was an archangel which actually wanted to experience that anomaly. He descended into that anomaly with very sophisticated technology and that was the birth of the dark forces.

Rob But the anomaly was already here (Yes.) creating on the physical planes any way, very challenging and difficult experiences, correct?

COBRa  The anomaly was already there but there was no intentional evil up to this point. (OK) The intentional evil was created as an interaction within consciousness and that random function, that potentiality.

Rob  OK. Was he of a particular star race?

COBRA  That archangel actually experienced many star systems and actually belonged to . . . He gathered experiences of many star systems.

Rob  Heres another question about death. I understand for those who can travel in the Astral plane and go to the worlds where people go when they die – it can be verified by the individual. But someones says theyve read that the light tunnel that people see when they die or have a near death experience is simply a soul catcher for the Archon’s reincarnation factory. Is it possible to escape the reincarnation process by not following the supposedly loving light?

COBRA  OK. I would not agree with that theory. I would say that when light is light and not light is not light. If you follow the light you will get into more light. Its not a trick. But yes, there are implantation stations on the etheric plane after you die. Yes, there are tricks being made. But if you follow your inner guidance where to go, you will most likely escape them. But you see the surface layer on the planet, on the etheric plane is in the scalar field. Its very difficult to escape the scalar field. People that die are actually trapped in that scalar field around the earth. They usually go to the next incarnation within that scalar field.

Rob And thats in the lower astral plane they dont escape it. Is that correct?

COBRA  Now in the lower astral planes its easier than it was. its possible to escape it but you have to transcend your inner attachments to the planetary surface.

Rob  OK. What are those humming sounds heard all over the planet? This was more prevalent some time ago. But I have heard sounds. Are these legitimate videos? Are these hoaxes? Or are there some sort of causes for these humming sounds?

COBRA  Yes, this sound is still happening. Its actually a combination. It was very strong etheric sound but now there is also strong plasma scalar technology which creates infra sound, which can be heard by human beings or even felt with human body. They are low frequencies, between, I would say, 10-50 Hz, which can be heard by human ear. They can be felt as a low humming vibration in the body, which is usually unpleasant.

Rob  Yes. Another question that’s kind of related to that. Is hyper sensitivity that many people are experiencing – is that due to the electronic matrix? Or it’s a combination of things?

COBRA  It is a combination of natural ? certain souls, which have to be sensitive to have certain channels open. But that sensitivity can be misused by the technology of the Archons. All those electronic plasma scalar devices can actually distort that sensitivity in a way which is not comfortable.

Rob  OK. I guess I want to ask you a question about the Dogon people. Theres been pictures of space ships on cave walls with stories of a space ship coming down, hollowing out some ground and putting in water and dolphins talking to humans. Is there any truth to that?

COBRA Yes. That was a visit from Sirius star system a long time ago. And actually there was a strong presence of Sirius population in central and north Africa throughout history.

Rob  OK. So this is not really a humanoid. It seems more like an animal. I understand the dolphins are higher souls come here to according to Sheldon Nidle – to weave and connect the etheric matrix in the oceans and to heal the earth – dolphins and whales both – but theyre not humanoid. But youre saying they actually exist as conscious sentient beings like humanoids in what we would consider dolphin bodies?

COBRA  Yes. You see in this Sirius star systems there are many watery planets and many life forms have evolved there. Some of them are humanoid, some of them look like dolphins and some of them look like something in between.

Rob OK. Do they exist exclusively in the water?

COBRA  Some of them, yes, and some of them have water as their natural habit. Some of them are amphibious, and some of them are living on solid ground. It depends. There are a few planets in that star system and they have different configurations – different ratio between water and solid ground.

Rob  Yeah, thank you. The Argians are one of my favorite and they did evolve from water. They talk about that. Has the Resistance chosen you or did you choose this task you have now?

COBRA  Actually, I have been asked by the Resistance to start a blog. It was not my idea. I have received some suggestions and I was not very happy about it, because I felt it’s too early and they said, now is the time. Just go for it and start it.

Rob Okay. Things take a long time to grow. Are you personally pleased with the support from your crew on the surface?

COBRA  I would say Im extremely pleased by certain people. Some people have surprised me very positively. But I also need to say that many people have surprised me negatively because there is much less cooperation on the surface than I had expected. This is one of the main reasons why this has taken so long. When I see all those dramas, I just can not believe.

Rob  I know. What would you wish further form the ground crew that we could create or do?

COBRA Okay. I would wish that people begin to fight this fight together. If you want to liberate this planet we have to cooperate. And I really mean that. We need to have a common vision and a common goal and start working together for this.

Rob OK. In my opinion, and from what I understand, the reality that we exist in, the physical plane, is a manifestation of the collective level of consciousness of humanity. Humanity has been dumbed down, hats, sun glasses and we continually look down. Would you agree that when humanity raises its spiritual consciousness and vibration, that the energies will be ripe for the event and that on a certain level people must adhere to the spiritual awakening just as much as learning about whats going on on the planet? Would you agree that a spiritual awakening process is very important as well?

COBRA I would say that a spiritual awakening process for humanity is only possible after the event. The event will happen when the technologies of the Chimera group are removed. The light forces are no longer waiting for humanity to wake up or people to cooperate, that of course would make it easier. The transition would be much softer, but it is now when the technologies are removed, when all those factors are taken care of, they will just go for it.

Rob – So you dont think that peoples spiritual vibrational upliftment is that significant to creating change on the planet? You think that would be too slow with the levels that we have now. Is that what you are saying?

COBRA -Well, with the levels . . . If we just wait for humanity that would take decades or even centuries. So, ah, there needs to be an intervention of the light forces from above this perspective to make this change happen. Of course every individual is important. Every spiritual group that can be made can make this transition easier and faster. But on humans alone, I would not say that humanity is in a state to be able to make this transition happen in a way that would make it a good plan, because I would say the level of cooperation even between the leading persons in the liberation movement is too low for any coordinated action. So that coordinated action, if possible, will come from beyond the surface of the planet and only then I can see that human beings will be able to follow that impulse, that vision, and when they see some concrete results, concrete proof, then people awaken. Human beings can not awaken based on inner experience alone. They need concrete proof, they need evidence . That evidence will be provided.

Rob I kind of disagree with that. I think that each Individual through their own spiritual experience could awaken that way. Are you saying that there is no individual spiritual awakening that can liberate someone without the event?

COBRA  It can, but I am not expecting this to happen on a massive scale enough to create the event. I would say that the spiritual awakening on a massive scale will happen after the event when people have the evidence and the light presence and when the Cabal will be removed and when the spiritual growth will happen without those obstacles. Im speaking now on a global scale. Of course, on an individual scale, your own individual awakening is up to you. But Im speaking of the general psychological and ? of humanity as a whole.

Rob OK Thank you for that distinction. I wanted to make that clear. I had a feeling thats what you means. Heres a fun one I like as I love crystals, lasers and scalar waves, which are going to be at my Mt. Shasta Conference. I have to say that we have a very cool system there.Cobra, what is the future of crystals in our lives?

COBRA OK. Crystals are actually, I would say, the most highly evolved matter on the physical plane and they can reflect higher consciousness and during the transitional period crystals will have a very important roll in the awakening of the masses.

Rob Yes, the advanced healing technologies will be utilizing sound, light and color frequencies directed through the crystals which will act as resonance transducers. Would you agree with that?

COBRA Yes, yes of course. Similar technology was used in Atlantis and similar technologies were used in many different star nations around the galaxies. This will be slowly introduced, but on a much higher level than we have right now.

Rob  This is a very basic question, but this is for the people of South Africa. This answer folks is on the web-site for those of you who read. But we have many new listeners who have not been to www.prepareforchange.net, which you need to go to and read. You should buy the book called: The event on Cobra or my site, or www.prepareforchange.net. This will give you great back-ground for what is going on here.
Heres a good question you can answer for the new people: Can you tell us the main difference between the event and what the New World Order (NWO) is planning to bring?

COBRa  These two are completely opposite things. The event is the liberation of humanity. It is the removal of the Cabal. It is the freedom of the people. It will give power to the people. The New World Order everyone knows what that means. I dont need to repeat that.

Rob OK. and it does seem that everyone is expecting the New World Order to do something to get their big control. Were deeply involved in it. Weve been in the control for long enough folks. Its time that it goes the other way. So dont expect any more big negative things.
Although Benjamin Fulford and many people talks about a Cabal orchestrated plot in September. Do you have any information on this? Will this be thwarted at this time? Is this being handed by the RM?

COBRA  You see the Cabal has many plans for many false flags for many different levels of extinction events. None of this will work as they want. I would say that now were living the maximum level of control is right now. This is the maximum stage of the New World Order ever on this planet. It can only get better. It can not get worse.

Rob Is the universe infinite?

COBRA  I would say the consciousness is infinite, but the material universe is limited by laws of physics in matter itself.

Rob  I would agree with that. That was an answer that I was expecting. Thank you for that.
Heres a good question: This is an individual process, but how do we start developing the discernment of who we really are as sovereign individuals to differentiate from dark systems of control?

COBRA OK. There is a lot of drama around this sovereignty thing. It is not about you fighting this system. Its about you living in the cracks in the matrix. So you dont need to challenge the system. You just exit the system and live in the cracks – when you are invisible, when you live in a different vibrational frequency than the system.

Rob Okay. I guess we’re gonna switch back to another question here. How will the credit system or the financial system work in the new system? You’ve said the stock markets will close forever. Wont there be a lot of resistance from the general public on this type of thing? Is this . . . Wont this kind of put people into a drastic fear-based money situation? Or are there plans to alleviate this and explain it all?

COBRA OK, the drastic fear situation will happen when the banks close at the moment of the event. And of course in that period when the banks are closed, the general public will be informed through the mass media about the situation. They will be very happy when the collateral accounts will be given to humanity and when they receive more abundance. So they will not complain. Of course a small percentage will complain. There is a certain percentage of people that will complain about anything.

Rob So it will be clear to people that their stocks and all that that theyve had invested there, will no longer be bringing dividends but they will receive value for their money back. They will welcome this new system based on that information.

COBRA Exactly, yes, yes.

Rob OK very good. Does the story of Noah and the flood have anything to do with reality or the sinking of Atlantis or is that completely a myth?

COBRA  Yes, it has much to do with reality because there were drastic floods in the near east 5,000 years ago and also of course there was a global cataclysm which destroyed Atlantis around 11,500 years ago.

Rob Was he contacted by higher dimensional beings to build an actual ark?

COBRA  Something similar happened, yes, but not just in one location. It was happening simultaneously in many locations around the planet.

Rob Okay so that’s the only record. There were many similar type Noahs gathering different animals around the planet. Correct?

COBRA Yes

Rob OK. What’s the difference between the higher self and the soul? Are they the same? Can you explain their functions?

COBRA  Basically there are two expressions for the same thing. This is your own inner presence. You can describe the soul or higher self. Its the real you.

Rob OK. Is it possible to be disconnected from the soul?

COBRA It is possible and this has actually happened to some members of the cabal?

Rob  You mean when theyâre sent to the central sun?

COBRA No, when they went to different implantation process through different dark rituals and through their life styles and their choices. Some of them have been disconnected gradually and some of them have been disconnected through different experiments in the past

Rob Okay, thats interesting, because the soul is who we are that retains its individual consciousness through lifetimes. So they take over; the soul is disconnected. The soul is sitting like in some type of prism and its actually used as an empty shell through a technology?

COBRA I would say that in the Cabals cases a part of the soul is projected in the ? and that part slowly or fast becomes disconnected and has independent life which is controlled by the elementals, by the spirit possession, by technologies and other things.

Rob OK. another question is: Egypt seems to have had a nice revolution. It seems like the light forces have taken over there and calmed the situation and have removed the Cabal agents of the Muslim Brotherhood. They did not open the border to the people of Gaza to escape from the recent bombs of Israel.
Why didnt a kind of a RM backed positive Egyptian coup government provide refuge for the Palestinians who wanted to escape?

COBRA OK, there is certain tension between various groups in Israel. I would say there was certain pressure for certain of those groups in Israel towards Egypt.

Rob OK. Thank you. Heres a question for someone that says theyve listened to you, they followed you. You said to buy a home would be a good place to put money. They bought a home. They put money in gold which is a real viable asset. They were concerned because some prognosticators say the pole shift will happen in two years and gold is going to go down and other things. Did the person who follows your advice, would you still say that they probably made a good choice to purchase a home.

COBRA Of course, number 1 you need to listen to your own self and not my own advice and my advise is just a suggestion. And yes, from my perspective, I still believe its a good choice.

Rob OK. Do you have any information on the Brazilian leader that was killed. He seemed to be a positive guy and some of the Brazilian people feel he was murdered. Is that correct?

COBRA  Yes, unfortunately the Cabal removed that person.

Rob  Are there any particular risks to iphones from other cell phones?

COBRA  I would say they are basically all the same. There are many risks from the cell phones from radiation to surveillance. I would suggest do not use them if its not necessary. So use them when you need them but not more.

Rob Another multiple question one we had I wanted to get to was about the Hadron Collider. It’s a star gate. Is it being used by the Cabal? Is it going to come back on line? Can you tell us anything other than what its claimed to be as a scientific experiment? Can you tell me . . . I know they may be taking information and then trying to develop negative things from it. But in and of itself, is it designed as a ley line disruptor, a weapon, a star gate? Is the location significant? Tell us about the Hadron Collider.

COBRA I would just put it this way: in a way there are good elements in that involved in its projects, but basically the Chimera group is misusing the whole thing. So I cannot say much because this is classified at the moment. There are things going on there which need to be prevented and will be be prevented. But there are some elements there that have plans that are not nice and they need to be stopped.

Rob OK. What are the role of the Lyrians in the liberation process? Do you know about them? Can you tell us about this race?

COBRA OK. I would say that race is not directly involved in the forefront but they are inspiring creativity in human beings.
 
Rob OK. Do you have advice for star seeds at this time.

COBRA Yes, I have. I would just remind all the star seeds that they have come from higher dimensions from greater reality and to connect with that greater reality as much as possible, to connect with their home, to connect with the stars and bring as much as possible that reality here. Because this reality here needs that higher vibration and to connect with other star seeds and other star people in a positive way.

Rob OK. We have a request from several people actually – would like to hear your comments, views and ideas on dreams.

COBRA Yes, but they need to be more specific than that.

Rob Tell us what are dreams.

COBRA Dreams are part of the daily cycle. As we have part of our existence on the physical plane, dreams are connecting us to the astral plane. Its a way for us to process part of our emotions which can not be processed consciously. Dreams have a symbolic language that speaks to us. Actually, souls try to speak to us through the symbolic language, but unfortunately the Archons, and.. . with their technology, have the ability to disrupt our dreams and to influence what we dream of. So we have to be very aware the manifestation of the dream is coming from. Is it coming from our higher self? Is it coming from processing our subconsciousness or is it coming from the Archon technology?

Rob OK. Another question, I guess it’s kind of related to the earth changes and stuff. Ive been told that when we get very close to a pole shift and things shifting on the planet, that their electrical systems will not necessarily explode, but will short circuit. Is this true something that we can look forward to as a sign that some big changes are taking place?

COBRA OK, you dont have to be afraid that the polar shift will happen before the first contact. Nothing like that will happen before the first contact.

Rob OK. Good. Can you comment on the Schumann resonance? Is it coming down, or whatever? Can you comment on that?

COBRA There has been a lot of claims about the Schumann resonance. Schumann resonance is not just one frequency. Its a series of frequencies which is actually describing the resonance frequencies of the ionosphere. It is not changing. It is simply that there are certain pique key frequencies that excites the ionosphere. This has been theoretically proposed by Dr. Schumann in the 50s and has been actually measured much later. And it is not connected directly with consciousness in the way people understand, but yes there is a certain. . . one of the main of those frequencies is resonant with the frequency of the human heart – that is true. But this also has some cosmic meaning because there are other galactic resonance frequencies and Schumann resonance frequencies are synchronized with the galactic frequencies on a certain level.

Rob OK. Heres something kinda out there for me but several people have asked it. Theres been claims of 15 primary multi-dimensional control beings and that theyve been responsible for manipulating the grid on earth for 54 million years. Can you comment on that? Is that anything you know about or is that nothing youve ever heard?

COBRA Ive heard about this story and I would say that the grids have been manipulated on earth but not such a long time frame. And, yes, there have been some control beings. I just hold the mark on some people have other names for them. All of this is going to be recycled very soon.

Rob Right. Would you say the number 15 is accurate?

COBRA I would say it depends on how you group those beings. Its not a linear distribution. (Yea, OK.) You can just say that there’s one major group of 200 people. You can say it’s a top group of 15 people. You can say its a group of 12 people. Its always shifting its not a static thing.

Rob Heres a good question and then we can make this our last one. How much progress has there been in disabling the strangelet bombs and their associated etheric scalar weapons and the Chimera group?

COBRA I would just say there has been progress. I will make a report about this maybe in a week or two. But you see, much intel about this has to be classified because its a very sensitive operation. This whole thing is much more dangerous than nuclear bombs. Of course, not much can be said about the actual operations themself. This is the reason why there isnt much intel out there in the last few months as these operations are under progress.

Rob  OK Cobra, thank you so much. A wonderful interview. We got through a lot of questions. I appreciate your time today. Well do it again next month. Thank you very much folks, Victory to the light.

COBRA Yes, thank you everybody for listening in. Yes, Victory of the light.